Third Learning in
later life/ Grundtvig project meeting
4-8 June 2008
First
meeting day : Thursday 05/06/08
Participants :
Lenka Prikrylova (
Petra Pavlasova (
Marja Toivanen (Finland)
Matti Tossavainen (Finland)
+ Pirjo Rantaniemi (
Monique
Epstein (France)
Jean-Michel
Damianthe (France)
Michaela Hermannsdoerfer (
Anne Buchmann (
Helga Waterloo (
Lidia
Maria Jedlinska (Poland)
Theresa from
Opening of the seminar
The meeting
was hold in the Foibe residence. Foibe is a center for senior citizens,
composed of 4 parts: Common services part including swimming pool, restaurant,
meeting rooms, library, computers room, etc; Residence with medical survey; Normal
residence with rooms to rent;
The meeting
started with the presentation of present
people:
-
Helga
(
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-
Marja
Liisa is voluntary worker in Foibe and teaching computer courses
-
Lenka
(from
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Helga
(
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Anne (
-
Michaela
(
- Monique (France) is manager for E-seniors organisation
-
Jean-Michel
(
-
Matti (
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Maria
(
Introduction of different
activities(task number 3)
Each
country presents different activities and experience with organization, people,
finance etc. The product is called "Map of activities for senior
citizens" and will be published on the web. It is a practical guide
for partner organizations and for other adult education institutions to see
possibilities of teaching in this filed.
Poland
Poland
Concerning
the project, the activities are senior oriented : it is a School of @ctive Senior – S@S , which the major goal is to stimulate and
foster the activity of senior citizens and to
provide conditions for their integration and (self-) fulfillment.
Modulus of
the S@S(“ Programme Lines”):
- ‘Senior in the world of culture
and art’
- ‘Senior in the world of new
technologies and information society’
- ‘Senior in public life: towards
conscious and full citizenship’
Ad.1
Major
goals:
- To provide conditions in which
senior citizens may exhibit creativity and improve knowledge in the field
of culture as well as enhance activity, develop and extend interest
(through using ICT, too)
- To
support integration process of senior citizens through
exchange of accomplishments and information as well as skills and
experience in the field of culture
and cultural heritage
- To
stimulate active life of senior citizens in order to increase their participation in
events organized by cultural institutions (exhibitions, meetings,
seminars)
Ad.2
Major goals:
- To provide the senior citizens
access to ICT
- To disseminate of the knowledge
on computers in the senior citizens group
- To increase the activity
- To improve the inter-generation
dialogue
We have
computer courses for beginners and
advanced with 10 people and 2
teachers
For
advanced courses : searching internet,
searching book lending system, scanner, training and lectures about banking
systems
Students
are meeting once a week when the library
is open.
Ad.3
Objective:
To stimulate civil activity of senior citizens directed towards
representing of the peers interest against public authorities through:
- Expressing the needs of the
senior citizens
- Participation in
decision-making processes
- Monitoring the situation of
senior citizens
All courses
are taking place in the library, which is also a good place to make
cross-generation meetings talking about
books.
Germany
Two main
activities :
- course computers :
for seniors without experience
most are more
than 60 years old
Lessons are
5 afternoons, each 3 times 45 minutes
The maximum
number is 10 people in group.
Each one has his own working place
It costs 6
euros per afternoon, which is cheap
The courses
are one specific day in the week but people have free access on other
days.
For advanced level :
work
processing and formatting for people who already know basics or learned 1rst course
4
afternoons twice a week (so 2 week as a
whole ) - free 6 euros
seniors
help each other
possibility
to train free on other days
Other course more internet oriented
– not only seniors
internet
basic search
preparing
holidays = complete task
safety in
using internet
working with
links
using
emails and having address
As people see their
children only once a year, the internet connection is very important
This is a morning
course with up to 12 participants, working in groups, 5 mornings
There is a special
fee for seniors
They also
learn :
-
create
greeting cards with word-arts (for Christmas, etc..)
-
first
steps to create a homepage with Frontpage for “Café mit Anschluss”
Later on,
they might continue with internet site creation
- Meetings “Café mit Anschluss” offer
activities/conferences without computer
The latest
activity has been to collect recipes from different countries (people are from
different origins) and printing out a
booklet.
other
offers without computers :
-using GPS,
mobile phones, health courses
-guided
visits: schools, factories...
- in June :
daily tour to
- working together with library staff : library
visits
Finland
During the
first year of the project we have had three kinds of courses, cellular phones,
elementary use of computers and internet banking. These have been conducted by
two voluntary workers with the help of students. The problems is how to
advertise of the possibility to join the project as there is not money for general
costs. We have used leaflets in the libraries and once a subsided advertisement
in the local paper. One article in a local paper has also brought publicity.
Wellness-TVfor
seniors presented later in these minutes
is also a part of our project.
courses about mobile
telephone
Each course
is 4 hours, as participant prefer them
to longer programs. Participants pay 5 euros pro course to cover the cost of
facilities.
Teachers: 2
voluntary workers and 1-2 students from
to near by technical University Laurea.
Problem :Most
telephones are too small, some to the participant have problems in
memorizing/learning.
By now we
have had 4 basic course for those who
are real new-beginners
and an
advanced course which continues basic course and where
other features are taught like
- calendar
- radio
- wireless lan
- camera
It is impossible
to go through all features, because telephones are too different and nowadays as complicated as computers, but the main aim is to make the
users confident with the basic functions and their ability to learn more. This
is very important as in
course about internet banking
There are
less and less bank agencies so internet banking becomes more important.
There was a
course given by two bank employees but
they have their jargon and proceed too
fast. Expert are anyway useful, but the voluntary workers have to help the
participants in practicing the new skills. In the future selecting participants
must be more effective ie. only those who have computers at home and are at
least somewhat familiar with them, can take this type of courses.
Courses how use computers
There are
many courses for people to learn to use computers, but they are not suitable
for old ones who need more individual tuition.
The
residents in Foibe are rather old and their condition is not good. This means
that most of the participants until present have come from outside. Even if the
fee (5 euros) is low, many feel that they cannot afford it.
There is a
problem of how to publicize in the area about courses
France
See french
map of activities
http://www.eseniors.eu/map_activities_FR.htm
Czech republic
The lessons
are individual lessons about basics of computers as young people are going to
seniors’ homes (people over 50) to teach
them. The idea is also to connect 2 worlds : young and old, which seems to be a
good idea for both.
Each senior
have his own teacher so the relationship gets strong and students get part of
family
Students get
advice from their teachers how to do the course
The
important is : slow pace teaching
Other planned
activities :
- language courses for seniors
- don't worry if you are more than 50
Presentation of Laurea
Technical University: Special project for seniors "Wellness TV"
This is a
project of interactive personalized TV
for seniors
With :
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Laurea
University of Applied Siences, Tikkurila Unit
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Foibe
Diakoniasäätiö witch offers in Palvelukeskus Foibe (Foibe Service Center)
apartments, services and activities mainly for the elderly people.
-
Videra
Ltd who provides the technological
platform ( http://www.videra.com/videra.htm)
This project was set up with and for young
students learning social services and
healthcare providing them a new way of applied studies in a new technological
environment.
The group of elderly people was of 11 persons. The
students make programs for elderly people. About health, counseling, healthy
food, services, music, etc. They make program in function of the needs and
demands of the seniors for as much as once a week from February to may 2008.
Programs can include conferences (web
conferencing), music audition, games ( such as everybody says a sentence and
the group sets up a whole story - creating a group story), group gymnastics.
There are some but few technical problems
(sound should be better).
One can also think of having it on the TV
screen of a person in her room, having ,
in the morning, somebody greetings ( saying : Good morning!!) on the screen.
The TV is in closed network so no security
problems
See more
http://www.eseniors.eu/vantaa_senior-tv EN 5.6.08 _v2.htm
Second meeting day :
Friday 06/06/08
SOG : presentation of results and experience
Czech republic
Held on
22nd May 2008 with a great success. The organization was guaranteed by
students, they were also helping their "students" not to be
nervous, 6 seniors participated
Questions
with multiple answers in category 4
Radio spot
was created by journalist who visited the Games
See
powerpoint presentation
See more: http://eseniors.educanet.cz/novinky/seniorska-olympiada-byla-uspesna.html
France
9
participants
It lasted,
in average, one hour and a half
See :
The
questionnaire : http://www.e-seniors.asso.fr/SOGformulaire.htm
The results
: http://www.e-seniors.asso.fr/SOGresults.htm
Poland
SOG were held on the 29th of may 2008
It was
intended for people over 60 and only for seniors who attended the courses in the library
A lot of people wanted to compete but from other
associations
10 seniors
attended : 6 women and 4 men of age between
69-85
There
is an article on the website of the
library : http://www.wbp.krakow.pl
and
www.tpnk.org.pl
The event was covered by radio, newspapers (http://ww6.tvp.pl/View?Cat=2789&id=728438)
and TV (http://ww6.tvp.pl/7576,20080618737526.strona)
See photos >>>
Next steps
Tasks 2 and 4
Templates
for lessons - all partners have to send the template before
the end of June
The list
of questions - finalization.
Task 6 : intergenerational communication
The next
meeting begins on the 22nd (evening) of October in
Every
partner is expected to prepare questions (at least 5) for the debate about
intergenerational communication
It can be
questions or description of problems of
non-communication.
They should
be sent before the end of August
Then we
centralize and keep a set of significant questions/subjects which will be sent
to all partners who have to prepare for it.
For the
meeting of October, each country is supposed to prepare a powerpoint with the
problems and their local answers – if
possible with the help of young people!
One example
of theme :
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The way of talking by SMS and the new way of spelling is a
communication barrier
-
Young
generation angry against older about wasting the good things of the planet or
about pension problems
Approximate
schedule will be :
Thursday 23 of October morning : young people/ or
partners present their powerpoint
presentations in front of the group of project responsible partners
Thursday 23 of October afternoon : discussion about
next steps :
Thursday
late afternoon and evening sightseeing
Friday 24 morning sightseeing
Friday
afternoon
Saturday
25th : sightseeing : visit to
Exergaming presentation
2 people
came from Exergaming
Juha-Pekka
Loven
Jonathan
October
Seen on
wiiseniors.org
Our mission is to provide the elderly and the youths of today the
ability to connect through technology, fitness and fun.
Some movies on the site
http://www.exergamingfinland.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=40&task=videodirectlink&id=24